Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 12:39 PM
Rhino Handmade releases the Stooges debut album yet again. The deluxe edition of 2005 contained alternate takes and a couple of the original John Cale mixes.
This time it's a lavish package (two CDs along with a 7” single) with the tracks of the studio release, outtakes and a studio version of Asthma Attack combined with the full John Cale mixes - We Will Fall and Ann are previously unreleased, Not Right was only available as the b-side of the 1970 7" 45rpm single.
The set will be released in April.
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3/22/2010 5:26 PM by
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3/22/2010 6:56 PM by
Hmm... it would be nice (or nicer) to see a new edition of Caribbean Sunset and Cale Alive with some bonus (single version Ooh La La, Villa Albani Instrumental, Kiddy At The Kongo if does exist the tape). Or re-issue of Honi Soit, Artificial Intelligence - it would more interesting than others
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3/22/2010 8:45 PM by
A studio version of"Kiddy in the Congo" does exist, "Ooh La La" was on the Seducing down the door...set. Honi Soit didnt sell well when released and isn't Artificial Intelligence still available? I bought cassettes of the two Ze albums and transferred them onto cdr!
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3/22/2010 10:09 PM by
You can buy Artificial Intelligence on amazon and itunes.
Cale comes Alive and Caribbean Sunset are both super out of print and probably will remain that way as I doubt there is much of a market for the two albums. You can download them off some guys blog though.
Way off topic but I listened to both Artificial Intelligence and Caribbean Sunset today. While they certainly aren't Cale's best albums, they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
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3/22/2010 10:30 PM by
Vigilante Lover would not have been out of place on Honi Soit but i don't like Cale's vocals on that album or the production on Caribbean...its too "happy time"
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3/22/2010 10:53 PM by
I think that production works well on Model Beirut, Villa Albani, and the Hunt.
Can someone just create a Cale forum so we can actually create topics like this and discuss them instead of having to use this as an impromptu forum?
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3/23/2010 9:41 AM by
The Stooges have a great forum.....there is a Cale (maybe that's the wrong word)forum called sabotage2.... 90% of the talk has nothing to do with Cale, and subscribers are mostly in the US trying to be clever but having little to say about John because all his activity is in Europe. It was ok maybe 10 years ago but its time has passed.
I think this is a fine way to keep up, you can read for hours and not hear a mention of Cale's first band. Also, Cale must read this, he used a chunk from here for his HoboSapiens documentary, thats a pretty good endorsement for an unofficial site i'd say.
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3/23/2010 10:38 AM by
@ gewlloh
Hi! You say that John Cale must read this forum because he used a chunk of it for his HoboSapiens documentary. What documentary was that? Oh, and I am surprised, I always assumed that this was an official website. I know of nothing as complete as this. Tim Mitchell, Cale’s biographer praises it!
I can spend hours at a time reading through these web pages and still come back for more. Thank you Hans Werksman for your profound dedication. John Cale should write a song about you.
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3/23/2010 4:53 PM by
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3/23/2010 6:37 PM by
@ Thomas
Hi! I thought gewlloh might have been referring to a radio or television documentary about HoboSapiens.
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3/23/2010 11:05 PM by
the unreleased documentary JC 03 was directed by Grant Gee, the 2003 concert at Manchester Academy was filmed for the purpose..one track from that concert is on youtube somewhere, sorry dont have the link at hand.
YES this site is unofficial, there is no mention of it being official anywhere...i guess people wrongly assume that because it is so quick and informative. Most official sites i've seen are poor, though there are lots of good ones. Maybe Cale will start one to sell his next record...Lisa Gerrard has a nice one, selling her new album and doing very well at it.
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3/24/2010 2:20 AM by
Here's the youtube Manchester clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVG5syG26A
Hopefully the rest gets leaked one day.
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3/24/2010 12:37 PM by
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3/24/2010 5:49 PM by
@ gewlloh
Hi! Thank you for the info regarding the JC 03 documentary. I wonder why it’s been shelved. Why is it that so many artistic endeavours fail to materialize. Very sad.
Oh! and I do agree about Lisa Gerrard’s website. Beautiful new album, Come Quietly. I’m hoping to see her in Wroclaw at the Nico tribute. I’ve seen her twice before. A woman of extraordinary beauty and with such a complex vocal range. But the talented Anja Plaschg I’ve not seen. Have read a lot about her and often play her Lovetune for Vacuum. She’s a most mysterious one.
John Cale would go for these incomprehensible women.
@ Paul and Thomas
Thanks for the info.
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3/24/2010 8:02 PM by
Paul wrote:
>>Way off topic but I listened to Artificial Intelligence<<
>>aren't as bad as people make them out to be<<
I love AI. Played it almost non stop – over and over again when first reading James Young’s book, Nico: Songs They Never Play On The Radio. A raw and desolate album. One of my all time faves. I love that crazy percussion by Dids. Cale sent him out around the neighbourhood looking for bits of old metal pipe and anything else to bang on that’d come up with a sound. Brrr – cold and atmospheric. I can taste the drugs now. Spit.
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3/24/2010 9:43 PM by
Have seen Anja Plaschg three times in concert, so shy yet not afraid to assault the audience...a rare talent.
The stooges 1st album is available for pre-order, details and samples can be heard here;
http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/the-stooges-the-stooges-collectors-edition?CMPID=EMC-RH032310#whatsInside-cd
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3/24/2010 9:48 PM by
The 26-track collection will be issued in a 7” x 7” hardbound booklet that contains two CDs along with a 7” single that features the previously unreleased track “Asthma Attack.” A staple of the group’s early live shows, this is the first time a studio version of the song has been released.
The Collector’s Edition’s first disc combines the original album’s eight songs with producer John Cale’s original mixes, including unreleased versions of “We Will Fall” and “Ann.” Also featured is the mono single version of “I Wanna Be Your Dog,” a song Rolling Stone named #438 on its list of “500 Greatest Songs Of All Time” – right behind Elvis’ “Love Me Tender.”
The second disc opens with “Asthma Attack,” a breathless spectacle of a song written when The Stooges’ 20-minute live sets were dominated by arty experiments in feedback and improvisation. The remainder of the disc presents an alternate version of the original album with alternate takes of every song, including full versions of “No Fun” and “Ann,” plus unreleased versions of “We Will Fall,” “Real Cool Time” and the album closer, “Little Doll.”
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3/26/2010 2:56 PM by
John Cale for the next Dr Who? I think he’d make a great Doctor.
I dunno where to post this. Sorry to stagger off topic.
Brilliant half-page-size pic of the Welsh Time Lord in Mojo mag.
Zig
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MOJO MAG – MAY 2010
PEACE IN THE VALLEYS
John Cale and The Heritage Orchestra
Royal Festival Hall, London.
(Review by John Harris)
Cale’s 1973 landmark, Paris 1919, played live but, controversially, not in album order.
Let’s begin near the end, with the first of two adoring standing ovations, followed by a long, impassioned appeal for an encore. John Cale looks blissfully surprised, though he shouldn’t. Four days away from turning 68, dressed in a silver-grey suit and skinny tie, with a bleach-and-henna barnet, there is something Dr Who-ish about him: an ageless non-conformist, directing magnificence from behind his keyboard.
We have come to hear 1973’s Paris 1919, yet another album to be played “in its entirety” – though this one’s turn is overdue. Soon after, Cale’s music – followed his head – went somewhere altogether more messed-up, but most of this record fused together to form a supremely elegant song-suite: the Old World re-imagined from California, sprinkled with references to Sebastopol, Shakespeare, Chipping Sodbury and the Versailles peace conference (and improbably recorded with some work of Little Feat). Held up as a founding work of ‘chamber pop’, its influence lives, and is heard in the music of tonight’s viola-playing support, Patrick Wolf.
Cale seems a little too dependent on the lyrics propped up on a music stand, but is in fantastic voice. At the core is a standard guitar-bass-drums trio, over which the 19-strong Heritage Orchestra (past collaborators with Arctic Monkeys, UNKLE, Dizzee Rascal etc) lay parts based on the original album, and more.
Things begin mutedly: Child’s Christmas In Wales sounds hesitant, the original’s warmth and ease mislaid. Later, the glorious title track almost goes the same way, possibly too burdened by expectations. Instead the highlights are relatively unexpected. The first master-stroke is The Endless Plain Of Fortune, both melancholic and triumphant, full of plunging string-figures that sound far more dramatic close up. Almost as good is the knock-kneed parlour reggae of Graham Greene, here featuring a Rio-esque trombone solo. Surprisingly, the glam tear-up Macbeth comes at the end, losing its incongruity, sounding more like a coda pointing to the dark and reckless stuff to come.
Then, sans orchestra, four songs including a near-perfect lurch through Fear Is A Man’s Best Friend. The HO return for his setting of Dylan Thomas’s Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night and Hedda Gabler from 1977’s Animal justice EP: given its expansive ambitions, Scandinavian theme and the new arrangement’s Consevatoire froideur, it is as perfect a companion piece to the main event as could be imagined. By way of once again reminding us of his unhinged side, he ends with Dirty Ass Rock ‘n’ Roll. And then come the ovations. “We hope you had as much fun as we did,” he says, needlessly.
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3/26/2010 8:35 PM by
This is off-topic too, but does anyone know if the Paris 1919 show in Paris tickets are on sale yet? I don't speak French and I'm trying to navigate the venue website and it seems their not on sale?
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3/26/2010 9:04 PM by
back on topic the samples of Cale's mix of the Stooges first album at the rhino site are running at the wrong speed.....$49.98 is the asking price
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3/26/2010 9:14 PM by
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3/26/2010 10:10 PM by
I see the ticket link, but the page redirects after like 5 seconds.
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3/27/2010 1:27 AM by
telephone 33 (0)1 42 56 13 13 they speak english too!
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4/1/2010 11:45 AM by
Reservations for Paris open on May 31.
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4/24/2010 10:14 AM by
Stooges...Rhino Handmade have cocked-up the Stooges 1st album re-issue. Not only are there issues that the disc is playing at the wrong speed but the discs have come back from the manufacturer the wrong colour and labelled incorrectly with disc1 playing disc 2 and disc 2 playing the music that should be on disc one. Distribution has been put but to May though some copies of the mis-pressed disc are in circulation