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There could be errors in this comparison chart..

Manufacurer Chip 800/900
MHz
2400
MHz
Vdd
(V)
Standby
(µA)
Transmit
(mA)
Recieve
(mA)
Interf. Other
Iface
Encrypt Remarks Package
Atmel AT86RF210 yes no 1.8 - 3.6 1 60 (3.3 V) 14.5 SPI no no PHY 48 QFN
Freescale MC13192 no yes 2.0 - 3.4 3 34 37 SPI no no PHY 32 QFN
Chipcon CC2420 no yes 2.1 - 3.6 ? 17.4 19.7 SPI no yes PHY 7 x 7 48 QLP
Ember EM2420 no yes 2.1 - 3.6 0.5 20.7 19.7 SPI no yes PHY 7 x 7 48 QLP
ZMD ZMD44101 yes no 2.4 4 20 19 SPI Parallel no PHY + Thin MAC

48 MLF

CompXS CX1540 no yes 3.0 1 56 57 SPI no no PHY + MAC

48

OKI ML7065 no yes 3.0 1 56 57 SPI no no PHY + MAC

48

UBEC UZ2400 no yes 1.8 5 ? ? SPI no ? PHY + MAC

48 QFN

    A couple of things things are worth noting :
  • None of the chips do both 800/900 and 2400 MHz
  • Transmit current is lower than recieve current for most devices. In wonder why.
  • The Ember chip is identical to the Chipcon chip. The pinout and the tekst of the datasheets are almost identical.
  • The OKI and CompXS chips are identical.
posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:36 AM
Comments
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    ABCD
    Posted @ 10/12/2004 3:54 PM
    cx1540:

    vdd - 2.5 core 3v i/o
    standyby - 1uA
    tx - 56mA
    rx - 57mA
    no other interfaces
    no support for encryption (available in other devices)

    CompXs' and OKI's devices are identical.
    ChipCon's and Ember's devices are identical.

    ChipCon and Ember do not have an integrated MAC. The MAC is supplied as s/w to be run on an external MCU. CompXs/OKI have an integrated MAC (i.e the external MCU only runs application s/w.)
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Ronin
    Posted @ 11/17/2004 6:33 PM
    Hello,

    For sub-1GHz operation, the upcoming PHY specifications are much more efficient and more applicable than the current ones. Well, it's my opinion anyway.

    Regards
  • # Zigbee Winner
    Zigbee dude
    Posted @ 11/23/2004 4:20 PM
    Ember is going to strong here. Best products, excellent MAC software and neat mesh network.
    Watch out for this company.
  • # Ember as Zigbee winner
    Geir F.
    Posted @ 11/23/2004 4:29 PM
    The zigbee products from Ember are just GREAT! Both radios and SoCs are impacable.
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Al
    Posted @ 3/4/2005 1:36 PM
    Hey, Geir F - you comments about Ember - are you by chance Geir Forre - CEO of Chipcon and now the owner of Ember?

  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Poort
    Posted @ 5/13/2005 11:50 PM
    We have 400ft range with Freescale MC13192 using their PCB antenna. Can anyone tell us how to increase the range by additional 200ft?
    PA, LNA, higher gain antenna?
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Wireless designer
    Posted @ 5/16/2005 1:49 PM
    Hi Poort:

    You can do the following to increase the MC13192 range:
    - Use highest power setting +4 to +6 dBm and/or
    - Manually set despreader threshold (not default setting) to get around -100 dBm sensitivity
    This comb gives you tremendous range. If it's still not enough, use a better antenna.
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Ivo
    Posted @ 5/17/2005 10:11 AM
    Freescale have published an application note about range extension :

    http://www.freescale.com/files/rf_if/doc/app_note/AN2975.pdf
  • # Freescale Zigbee Devices
    Wireless Networker
    Posted @ 5/18/2005 10:24 PM
    Freescale just released six new great Zigbee silicons. I have only the shortform of the datasheets. If you have the complete datasheets, please email me at mesh.networking@gmail.com.
    We can also exchange other Zigbee information.

    Thanks.
  • # Investing in Zigbee companies?
    guest
    Posted @ 6/30/2005 11:50 PM
    Ember is backed by the inventor of Ethernet, is totally dedicated to Zigbee
    and provides superior technology. Ember has everything, from chips to SW to
    application design. A winning startup!

    Freescale (Motorola) has more traditional approach to Zigbee, but they have
    the financial strength and technological portfolio to dominate the Zigbee
    market together with Ember. A safer!
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    ivo
    Posted @ 7/6/2005 2:59 PM
    The current ember chips are just re-labeld chipcon chips. Chipcon chips are used in the microchip and other kits and are actually for sale and shipped (unlike other brands..).

    "Backed by the inventor of Ethernet" seems like an empty marketing slogan to me.. he's just a hired hand i doubt he had anythig to do with the spec or ember's implementation.

    imho the best bets are still freescale and chipcon for chips and maybe radiocrafts and ember for modules.

    The choice for the XAP2 cpu core is interesting, it seems like a more attractive alternative than the 8051-like cpus used in other solutions, but i'd be very worried about the lack of a GCC compiler and the lack of a third party IDE, use this CPU and you are stuck with cambridgeconsultants.
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    .
    Posted @ 7/6/2005 11:08 PM
    " Swedish Nordica Semiconductor has just released their Zigbee roadmap
    according to siliconWatcher. The first device introduced this year seems to
    be the nRF25Z01 that integrates radio, uC, ambeddedFlash and peripherals.
    All in CMOS. This device is based on the same technology platform that is
    used by LOGITECH in their cordless mice and keyboards."
    *We want silicon!*
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    ivo
    Posted @ 7/12/2005 10:07 PM
    If we are to decide which Zigbee povider to select, it would be either Ember
    or Freescale. From there the choice is more difficult, unless we use both.
    Both Ember and Freescale have amazing products and we are really
    impressed by the completeness of their product roadmaps. Their customers
    also get great help and support to make the application.
    Go to their webpages. I think about 10-20 people works with Zigbee at Ember
    and Freescale but you get a feeling of hundreds people are behind their
    products.
    Try and you'll see!
    www.ember.com
    www.freescale.com/zigbee
  • # Zigbee chips
    meshing
    Posted @ 7/12/2005 10:17 PM
    I have spent hours analyzing the Zigbee chips from all key and upcoming
    players. I do see quite a few potential improvements for these players to
    become top two.
    If you also have done the same, let's get the discussion ball rolling.

    I am at mesh.networking@gmail.com.
  • # SW code for Ember EM250 Zigbee system-on-chip
    Enter your name
    Posted @ 7/18/2005 5:57 PM
    SW code for Ember EM250 Zigbee system-on-chip:

    I am testing EM250 for a home automation purpose. The XAP2 mcu is really fantastic.
    Anyone has a whiteware profile they can share or tell me where to download? Thanx.
  • # EM250 also MIMO compatible
    richard
    Posted @ 7/26/2005 9:55 PM
    Ember EM250 can also be used as a MIMO system due to its excellent dual rf interface.
    You get 7db better sensitivity, assumingly. We are talking about better than -100dBm
    sensitivity, guys.
  • # # EM250 also MIMO compatible
    Ivo
    Posted @ 7/27/2005 10:22 AM
    Is the EM250 actually for sale ? The Ember site only mentions pre-ordering the EM250.
  • # Zigbee and Ember Statistics
    123456
    Posted @ 7/29/2005 12:47 PM
    There are about 21 independent Zigbee disc. forums around whereof 14 are chips related.
    Looking at the last 2 months 80-90 % of the stuff is about Ember. Measurement of the
    EM250 looks like a hot issue at the chips sites. What's going on?

  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Ivo
    Posted @ 7/29/2005 7:23 PM
    I did a roundup of zigbee modules and most use the ChipCon chip. Next is the FreeScale chip. Ember doesn't have a chip of their own on sale, all they have is a re-labeled Chipcon chip, and announced (but unavailable) single chip solution and a large marketing budget.

    I (the owner of this blog) have been getting messages on the blog which i suspect of being by or for Ember purely as a marketing tool. These anonymous posts without links so there is really no way of checking the facts.

    The facts are :
    * Chipcon and Freescale chips are being sold by mouser etc.
    * 3rd parties (Microchip, Radiocrafts) are using these chips to build modules available now.
    * What ember does have is a complete zigbee stack, vendors selling modules + licenses will find this attractive.

    Ivo


  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Mark
    Posted @ 8/2/2005 9:00 PM
    I am also very skeptical about companies that press release their chip months
    and years before the actual product shows up, if anything shows up at all.
    Many people incl. myself is trying to get EM250 silicon for testing. I haven't got it
    but it does not mean that EM250 does not exist. It simply means that I am one of the
    technology freaks, not important lead customer. At least I can read about how others
    are testing the EM250 at some other forums. And there are also many OEMs waiting
    for the EM250 from Ember.
    And how can I really know that a company has a large marketing budget?
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Robert
    Posted @ 8/14/2005 10:13 PM
    This is a great site!
    Anyone can give me a link to a discussion forum of Ember solutions with focus on SW?
    I want to learn more about the 16bits XAP2 mcu used by Ember.
    robert.s@cox.net
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    oem
    Posted @ 9/5/2005 10:14 PM
    In June, "Ember Unveils World’s First ZigBee-On-A-Chip" EM250
    (http://www.ember.com/company/press/press-060605.html).

    This month (September), "Jennic announces availability of world’s first
    single-chip IEEE 802.15.4 wireless microcontroller.
    Jennic has announced that its JN5121 single chip IEEE 802.15.4 wireless
    microcontroller is now available and in production in volume quantities."

    It is confusing this being "world's first", but it does not matter
    for me as a user who is first and who is second. What is interesing is that
    both devices are in volume production and that the component race has
    started.
    More devices mean lower cost and better choice!
  • # All I did not find
    curious
    Posted @ 9/10/2005 1:05 PM
    I checked some of the posts above.

    www.zigbee-specshare.com: Link reported dead (checked several times)

    Nordic Semiconductor (www.nvlsi.com): Has highqual silicons (used in Logitech products etc.) but nothing indicates that they have released Zigbee products.
  • # The Zigbee race is on!
    abc
    Posted @ 9/13/2005 8:50 PM
    The Zigbee race is on!

    Another one in September: Chipcon delivers "World's First True System-on-Chip (SoC) ZigBeeTM Solution"
    http://www.chipcon.com/index.cfm?dok_id=243&kat_id=6

    More devices mean lower cost and better choice!
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Ivo
    Posted @ 11/1/2005 2:42 PM
    I'd checked the availability of some chips. Comments are welcome. Mail me if needed
    The name is "ivojunk1" and the provider is "xs4all.nl"

    http://blogger.xs4all.nl/ivonoorh/articles/65296.aspx
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Juul
    Posted @ 4/24/2006 12:03 PM
    Hello all,

    The last months I've also been looking for ZigBee. Last week I've found the company "Jennic" (www.jennic.com) and I think they have very good ZigBee chips!
    The evalution kit only costs $1000,- (compared to the much more expensive $10.000,- full dev kit of Ember) and is very complete.

    What do you guys think of the products of this company?
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    Paul Covell
    Posted @ 6/5/2007 11:58 AM
    For those interested, a lot of companies now have a single-chip solution -- and of course, we all claim to be the first! - Ember EM250 and Chipcon/TI CC2430, among others.

    Ember's also introduced a full dev kit that's cheaper, called a Jumpstart kit, that's only US$2500. It's a little more expensive, but we like to think it's better. Jennic isn't much interested in sending me one of theirs for testing, but if people have questions I can try to answer.

    Full disclosure: I work for Ember.. surprise.

    -Paul
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    iddaa tahminleri
    Posted @ 4/7/2008 1:14 AM
    Thank you.
    http://www.iddaa.in
  • # Freescale vs Chipcon 802.15/Zigbee xcvr | keyongtech
    Pingback/TrackBack
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    Freescale vs Chipcon 802.15/Zigbee xcvr | keyongtech
  • # re: Zigbee chips comparison chart
    BoilerZigBee
    Posted @ 3/17/2009 9:47 PM
    How about Digi?
  • # Beware of TI's ChipCon chips (CC2480)
    BusyBee
    Posted @ 8/8/2009 8:31 PM
    If you value your time and product stay away from TI's ChipCon ZigBee products.
    They are immature and their stack is catastrophic, poor software level and generally speaking unreliable.

    I've been working on a Hospital project, and we had so many issues with them. Now we're using X-Bee which are much better.
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